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Why I Hate the phrase “non-christian”

One of my former Kentucky Christian University students is a brilliant pastor, insightful writer and challenging thinker.  When his blog included this phrase I chose to respond to him, personally via email, concerning one of my top 10 most hated phrases.  Here was my response.  Hope it helps you.

*******, I have enjoyed very much your blog since signing up a month ago.  I like how unfettered you are in attacking issues of taboo, both cultural as well as within the church context.  You are a smart#^* at heart which, in my estimation, makes you insightful, provocative and places you in a position to write pithy stuff from a unique perspective.  I make a habit to read blogs of mega-church pastors to see how they think.  Inevitably, I stay with them at the most, two weeks.  Yours is the longest blog I’ve ever read consistently and will continue to do so because it is real, humorous and self-effacing. 

 

Because I can see you care about how you think and how your thinking affects people (it’s evident in your discourse), allow me to challenge the parameters of one cognitive domain specifically.  I know what you mean when you write “non-Christian,” so don’t feel the need to explain yourself.  For ease of communication, we understand what that means. However, stuff like that, if you think about it for a minute, can also shape our world view, and thus, our perspective in a deceptive way as well.  Once adopted, we learn to think inside of a parameter that may not be accurate which leads us to false conclusions about important stuff.  On to my illustration…

 

In the blog to which I am responding, you note that most of the music on your iPod is “non-Christian.”  Is it?  I know it may not say Jesus every 5th word, et.al. argument ad nauseum; however, music isn’t Christian or non-Christian, people are.  In some of my work with artists (one on one discipleship); with guys who have been in Black Crowes, Tom Petty, etc. I have discovered some incredible things.  You would never think of Tom Petty as Christian music but the dude has faith.  He really does.  So do many, many guys in the California scene of music.  I realize I operate from a different mindset but I have only met a couple people who are truly non-believers.  I’m not a universalist nor do I think people encounter God by thinking happy thoughts or uttering tribal grunts while rubbing ashes on your groin in some primordial cave.  I believe in Jesus and His ability to reveal Himself to people.  My part, as a Pastor and Teacher, is to discover them and assist them in understanding the Word of God so as to increase their faith (By hearing, thus, by the Word of God).  When we maintain only one parameter for separating people: “Christians” and “non-Christians,” we miss out on the largest, most realistic field white with harvest.  Who is that?  It is those who have been disenfranchised by the church, those who don’t understand the Bible and those who write songs about all kinds of stuff, aside from God, because they don’t yet know how to experience Him in a meaningful way.  In just one example that I know of personally, when Tom Petty came to understand that he can be a Christ-follower and still write songs that harpoon lawyers in the music business, he got free.  His belief moved from the margins to the center of who he is.  In the boxed set he released last year, there is a moment in Petty’s concert where he encounters the glory of God.  It is the most spectacular and personal thing I’ve seen in a (and I use this term reluctantly) “secular” concert.  When the glory of being a rock star is thrust at him by the audience, instead of absorbing it, like he had his entire career, he turns his back to the audience, looks to heaven and raises his hands.  It still makes me cry thinking about it a year later.  He, a “non-Christian” musician did something most “Christian” artists lack the spiritual maturity to do: he diverted glory and redirected it to its rightful place…toward God.  Tom does it because it is really all he knows, now.  All glory is God’s and he spent too much of his own life absorbing it.  You can read the brief post summarizing this story on my blog under the title “what if everything was OK” at www.louieweber.com  Tom is a Christian; fleshy and messy-yes, but he is a believer in Jesus Christ and His resurrection, which according to Romans 10:9, gives him eternity.  So, in just one example of hundreds of possibilities, your parameter for thinking can allow you to conclude something that marginalizes many people who would otherwise be unequivocally included in the Kingdom of God by our words as well as by the invitation of Jesus Himself.

9 Comments »

  lucas miles wrote @

Louie,

Great article…this is right on with what we were discussing with Arthur Meintjes recently…Christ died for the sins of the entire world…not just for those who currently believe…but everyone. Understanding God’s love and intent for EVERY MAN, allows us to dissolve the “us vs them” mentality that causes an unnecessary chasm of separation. Good stuff!

  Willis wrote @

Thanks Lou – this really goes along with what my wife Sharon always talks about. She’s helped me realize the need for less of a “us” & “them” kind of world.

  Bake wrote @

What about country music?

Bake

  Louie wrote @

What about Country Music? It still blows. Nothing has changed. :)

  Bake wrote @

I will be serious now. I agree 100% with your comment. I remember when Amy Grant so called crossed over and how the Christian community said she was selling out. What crap that was!

  Louie Weber wrote @

Thanks Bake. I remember those days well. I was one of those people ranting against Amy at that time. Funny how God’s perspective changes us, isn’t it? Wow.

  Bake wrote @

Louie,

I didn’t remember you were one of those people ranting against Amy. I sometimes forget what the old Louie was like. I remember you telling me one day in your office at KCC that I needed to dress better. That the way you dress help a person’s credibility. You know what? That was crap too! Ha Ha Ha!

Bake

  Louie Weber wrote @

I was correct and you were a pig. Now look at us; we’ve met somewhere in the middle. :) You are very refreshing, Scott Baker.

  pj wrote @

I just love this transparent,(honest,”in ur face stuff”). I started singing the ole love songs from the 60s,(“I Love You Because,You understand …Jerry Vale) to JESUS, back in the mid 80’s! I was a New Catholic, even tho I was raised in a pentecostal church, I ACTUALLY FOUND JESUS in the Catholic Church! ( H.S. says Jesus was never lost) :) . What they taught me about the “BLOOD” is priceless! I didnt know that I could celebrate communion by myself,@ home,(I try to do this Daily now)they have these rules bout a Priest has to do it, etc.,…& one day in 90s I was fightin demons left & right & didnt know what to do, so I went to see the priest! So, he told me that I could get communion in 15 min, @ a FUNERAL he would be officiating.But, first I had to do confession w/him! I told him I had ALREADY done that this A.M. (the look on his face was priceless).SO, I made up some sins, so he could “officially” give me communion! The funeral was for a lady that was my exact age, and her name was the same as mine! I didnt care, I came for the good stuff, I comforted the mourners around me, & was just waiting anxiously for the end, because thats when they gave communion.Then I beat it outta there!

moral of all this: DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BE INTIMATE WITH OUR LORD, & HE WILL MEET YOU THERE…..WHENEVER & WHEREVER!

of course Im not a “practicing Catholic” now, (but occassionally I still go to mass, & use their prayer chapels too) and I dont really know where I fit in yet…..but I just keep going where the Holy Spirit leads………

dont know nothin bout no brevity…….

Because He LIVES, ….I CAN Face Tomorrow, pj

http://www.patjennings.injesus.com


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